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Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am in no way under the impression that atenism was asdopted solely throughout the country by all people and the old gods disregarded. There is plenty of evidence to show otherwise in fact. Thanks for the information about the whip, I didn't know about that title. Do you think that the exclusiveness of the Aten to the Royal family was due to some childhood experiances which led Akhenaten to become an introvert? I always thought that it was his form of personal rebellion against a religion/establishment that hurt him. Why else would he take such drastic measures against the country? Was it a personal revenge against the god Amun?


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Hi again Si-Amun,
In the reign of Amenhotep III, his architects, the twins Suti and Hor in their Hymn to the Aten, proclaim ... "He alone"... Surely you're not implying that recognizing one god alone shows no other gods/goddess' exist?

As for 3 words from one line in one hymn shows proof, that Akhenaten wiped out all the other gods/goddess' of Egypt. i am sorry Si-Amun i not convinced. i remind you that he brought the Mnevis bull to Akhetaten. This bull was identified with Ptah before and after Akhenaten.

I ask again please give me your sources for Akhenaten's outlawing, destroying gods/goddess' other than Amun. If you are right, surely finding sources to give me will not be hard.

As for the palace it isn't so much the name i was referring to as outraging the priests of Amun, but it's location. As far as possible from the temple of Amun at Karnak. This combined with the name makes it very maddening and disrespectful to the god Amun.

As for Tiy, since i accept the growing evidence that 1) Amenhotep III started the major Atenist reforms, and 2) that there was a long coregencey between father and son. Your wondering does not come into play as she would have been in full support of husband and son.

As for your wondering about her with regards to the legions of Egyptianologists that still agree with you. i have never read a discourse about it, implying to me they have no clue and for once don't care to speculate! i wonder why?

As for your wondering about the Aten's rays and hands only upon the royal family being realistic or idealistic? Since my own beliefs only distress you, i suggest you do some readings taken from the tombs of nobles in Amarna. The love poem by Kiya to AKhenaten. Some of the experts like Grimal, Redford, Giles, and Flecter. Or even the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, edited by Ian Shaw. They will tell you as i am now, it was realistic. All blessings from the Aten came by mediation of the royal family preferrably Pharaoh. But please don't take my word for it, read the experts.


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In Akhenaten Pharaoh of Egypt a New Study.By CYRIL ALDRED he states "In the Great Hymn to the Aten...nowhere in it is the slightest mention of other gods.There was but one god and Akhenaten was his prophet."


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