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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:44 am 
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The name Moses could also derive from the Hebrew verb "Masha" (to draw out). In Exodus 2:10, Pharaohs daughter states that she gave him his name "Because I drew him out of the water".

I also consider it unlikely that Moses and Akhenaten were one and the same. I also agree that the exodus was "sexed-up" a bit as time passed and was probably not a major event in Egyptian history.

The connection is partly because Manetho described a priest named Osarseph (Moses?) who apparently took control while the pharaoh (Seti) and his son fled egypt. The son returned 13 years later and restored the gods. Josephus says that Manetho linked Akhenaten and Osarseph, and others then comapred the story to Moses and the exodus.

Clearly this makes little sense as Seti and Ramesses were later, and Seti did not flee Egypt with his son. However, I think Freud was influenced by this in making his unwise statements about Akhenaten.

Incidentally, I recently read an imaginitive theory linking Nefertiti with Jezebel. According to this tale, she was married to King Ahab (allegedly Labayu of the Armarna letters) and set up with Akhenaten causing him to reject the old gods and worship baal and astarte (redefined as the aten). However, she fell from grace and fled egypt only to be murdered by Horemheb (allegedly the biblical Jehu). Of course, Jezebel lived some time after the exodus so this only muddies the waters.

I have started a page on the different pharaohs who have been labelled as the pharaoh of the exodus and comments would be appreciated




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Is it possible moses was originaly Jehovamosse/yahwehmosse or similar & later it became forbidden to use the name of god so the 1st part of his name was dropped?


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There is no strong evidence but this article may be talk about this http://famouspharaohs.blogspot.com/2007 ... 334-b.html


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I have read through this thread with great interest as it is a subject close to my heart and one I have been researching for many years.

It is believed by some that Amonhotep III had another son called Thutmose, who was his eldest son and heir to the throne.


Thutmoses amongst other things was the High Priest at the temple of Ra in Heliopolis, but for unknown reasons disappeared in the latter part of his fathers reign.

If moses was the priest depicted in Manetho's Aegyptiaca then they both fit the profile as they were both servitors at the temple of Ra in Helioplis, so they could be one and the same person, which would make more sense than Thutmose younger brother Akhenaten being moses.


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Hi kozzol , i believe that Maneto mention Moses as a leader of plague group wich was disband from Egypt , however these people some how, manage to hold or make town of their own, leather they conquerd Egypt whit the help of Hyksos , so if we lay on Maneto , Moses have to be lived somewhere around the very beginning of fifteen dynasty.I was read that in Jan Assmann "Moses the egyptian" everyone can check it, for more accurately information.


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Amenhotep's elder son, Thutmose, was supposed to be his heir, but evidently he died before he could become Pharaoh, and Amenhotep IV (Akhnaten), who was AIII's second son, came to the throne.
Thutmose didn't :disappear", in fact, his tomb has been located. It's true that he was a priest. Evidently, he was fairly young when he died--a fact not that unusual in AE.


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