nileqt87 said: "and the word "wedjat" means "blue" in Egyptian"

nileqt87, I don't know where you're sourcing this information from - the quotes you give can all be found on a number of websites, most of which seem hugely dubious. I have never known the word 'wadjet' in the context of the Eye of Horus (the Udjat eye) to mean 'blue.' I can assure you that it means 'brown' or more literally 'papyrus brown.' This is of no bearing to race at all - I don't care about that. What I do care about is people passing on faulty information and referencing it incorrectly (without even mentioning the website from which it is drawn).

This may sound like an overreaction, but many people use this website for reports and so on, and KTO is frequently the No. 1 Google hit for searches regarding Egyptology. I told you a while back it didn't mean blue anyway, and yet you still state it as though it were a fact - alongside many other dogmatic and equally dubious statements - such as your insistence on the skin colour of King Tutankhamun.

These topics repulse me slightly - I would have thought the sorts of people who use this forum were beyond arguing over things as petty as what colour the Egyptians' skin was.

*Phew* I hope that wasn't too vehement!

no not at all thanks

"It is proven just by the bible alone. noah had three sons . . . Ham was whom the egyptian came from along with others in africa. . . ."

I do not wish to disillusion you if you are a strict Christian or Jew, but the vast majority of historians and biblical scholars now discount the Bible as an accurate historical source. Whilst the Bible is not explicit in mentioning dates, it is not particularly difficult to add up the ages of various members of the Biblical lineage in order to date the various occurences of the Old Testament and Torah. Most learned scholars have (on many separate occasions) predicted that the Great Flood occured c.2300 BC, and this was indeed the date accepted by the Catholic and Protestant churches after the Great Schism of 1054. Any modern alterations of this date have little or no foundation on Biblical references, and scholars struggle to force the Great Flood any earlier than 3000 BC.

As you probably are aware, the Egyptian civilisation continued completely unaffected by this flood - the writings of the 'heretic' Manetho which supposedly disproved the Great Flood were verified by Champollion when he was able to accurately date the tombs at Saqqara and the valleys near Thebes.

Saying that the Bible proves Egyptian lineage is about as accurate as saying that it proves the existence of God. Whilst I am not prepared to go into that particular route of thought, even the most dogmatic Christian must accept that almost everything they think to be true stands a chance of being wrong.

Using the Bible as a cronological reference-work can be iffy, at best. I think one of the main things to help understand Biblical writings is to realize that, for many centuries, the Bible was mainly an oral tradition. Over the years I'm sure errors were made in reciting many passages. Also, it must be remembered that, basically, the Bible (or the Torah) was used as an example for belief and the power of God to show the Israelites that they were the chosen, that their God was THE God. Most references in the Bible to places and names were loosly made, with not much worry over accuracy, but more concerned, again, with showing the Israelites the power of their God. Some, not many, places that are named in the Bible have been found, but usually no-where near as described.

Most of the genetics dealing with the subject puts AE negroid blood at between 1% and 5%. That allows for some influx of Nubian genes from the south. It also means that some were a little higher and that many had almost none.

I don't think any of the reconstructions look like King Tut. By looking at his mummy you can get an idea of how he looked, it doesn't seem like any of these teams looked closely at the boys mummy to get an idea of how he would look.
Doesn't ham mean black in the ancient egyptian language? the bible and the ancient egyptian have agreat deal of similarities.