I would like to ask you all a question and i hope i would find an answer for it somewhere here...

where is Prophet Moses mentioned in Egyptology? and i mean Moses the Prophet who's story we all know from the religious scriptures...

i found this and it is very puzzling...(the pictures are on http://www.greatdreams.com/moses.htm )


THE MYSTERY AND CONTROVERSY OF THE STORY OF MOSES

WAS MOSES AKHENATEN?

Amenhotep IV?




Moses from the Tomb
of Julius II. San Pietro
in Vincoli, Rome.Italy
Akhenaten



Is the Answer to the Question Below?
If this carving is Moses, there is NO resemblance at all to Akhenaten!



Photo added 1-3-00 - Profile of Moses/Yeshua with references to Masonic order. (Notice pyramid and Menorah above the head) Essene priesthood, 8 pointed star again, Venus sun, traveling by sea, Lord of the Sun and Moon . (suggesting the Pharaonic order.. the royal bloodline) Exerpted from Robert Ghostwolf - Hall of Records Page 6
I have learned things about my two legged ancestors from the pieces I have found that they left behind so that I would know. They had swords, and they wore leather. And some wore armor. They wore skins and danced with the Spirits. They wore feathers, and sandals as well as shoes and moccasins, and fine silk, yes here in America long ago. Some were very tall. Some lived in pueblos, and others rode upon Elephants I am told, in the messages they left behind Yet that happened here in America, and not some far off land.

I see the world through the eyes of my ancestors and in many ways I fit into neither their world, nor the present world of material madness. To me this corporate society is alien to this Earth I love so deeply, as alien as the English language. The native people today are as lost as anyone else. Now I hear many calling themselves the First Nations People. We are not Native Americans we are First nations People. Well there was quite frankly someone here before what presently are referred to as the Native Americans.

I have touched the carvings of ancient Egyptians in the New Mexico and Arizona Deserts in Colorado, and in Illinois. I stood in awe of statues of Horus and RA that towered over me carved in the fire pink stone of the desert caves, those who carved these effigies, perhaps they were the Native Americans? I have seen with my own eyes bodies that were ten and twelve feet in height buried in crypts wearing armor, draped in silk and cotton cloth, and carrying huge broad swords were these the Native Americans? Conventional history says they could not be, but there are things that historians have neglected to include in the books we were taught from back in school.

Excerpted from Robert Ghostwolf Starnations






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Jan Assmann both defines and practices in his book, the study of historical memory--a study, in this case, of the ways in which factual and fictional events and characters are stored in religious beliefs and transformed through philosophical justification, literary reinterpretation, philological restitution (or falsification), and psychoanalytic demystification.
To account for the complexities of the foundational event through which monotheism was established, MOSES THE EGYPTIAN goes back to the short-lived monotheistic revolution of the Egyptian king Akhenaten (1360-1340 B.C.E.).

The biblical chronology dates the birth of Moses to around 1527 BC. In the new chronology of Egypt, the pharaoh on the throne of Egypt was Neferhotep I of the 13th Dynasty.

There is no mention of the biblical Moses in Egyptological sources. Using the Bible as a source of historical data is, at best, risky. Technically, even the name "Moses" is not Egyptian. It may be a corruption of half of the Egyptian name-ending, "Mose", as in Thut-mose. The Hebrew nation is hardly mentioned at all in Egyptian writings--there is one slight reference in a stele of Marenptah. Things mentioned in the Bible, such as the Exodus, seem not to have historical fact. One must remember that most books in the Bible were oral legends first, and meant more to show the Hebrew people they were different.

I wonder what could happen if people discover that Moses was Akhenaton....

BUT...have you all come across this before...???


Moses and Akhenaten
one and the same person By Ahmed Osman
The Bible and the Kuran speak of Moses being born in Egypt, brought up in the pharaonic royal palace, and leading the Israelites in their Exodus to Canaan. In historical terms, when did Moses live, and who was the pharaoh of Oppression? Now that archaeologists have been able to uncover the mysteries of ancient history, we need to find answers to these questions. Egyptian born Ahmed Osman, believes that he has been able to find the answers for these questions which bewildered scholars for centuries. He claims that Moses of the Bible is no other than King Akhenaten who ruled Egypt for 17 years in the mid-14th century BC.

During his reign, the Pharaoh Akhenaten was able to abolish the complex pantheon of the ancient Egyptian religion and replace it with a single God, Aten, who had no image or form. Seizing on the striking similarities between the religious vision of Akhenaten and the teachings of Moses, Sigmund Freud was the first to argue that Moses was in fact an Egyptian. Now Ahmed Osman, using recent archaeological discoveries and historical documents, contends that Akhenaten and Moses were one and the same person.

In a stunning retelling of the Exodus story, Osman details the events of Moses/Akhenaten’s life: how he was brought up by Israelite relatives, ruled Egypt for seventeen years, angered many of his subjects by replacing the traditional Egyptian pantheon with worship of Aten, and was forced to abdicate the throne. Retreating to exile in Sinai with his Egyptian and Israelite supporters, he died out of the sight of his followers, presumably at the hands of Seti I, after an unsuccessful attempt to regain his throne.

Osman reveals the Egyptian components in the monotheism preached by Moses as well as his use of Egyptian royal and Egyptian religious expression. He shows that even the Ten Commandments betray the direct influence of Spell 125 in the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Osman’s book, Moses and Akhenaten provides a radical challenge to the long-standing beliefs concerning the origin of Semitic religion and the puzzle of Akhenaten’s deviation from ancient Egyptian tradition. In fact, if Osman’s contentions are right, many major Old Testament figures would be of Egyptian origin.











Freud on Akhenaten
There are prophets who brought the concept of Monotheism to the World.

Among them were Akhenaten, Moses and Zarathrusta.

Many people feel they were all the same soul.

One of Europe's great thinkers, particularly affected by the abundant mysteries being uncovered in Egypt, was Sigmund Freud. The founder of modern day Psychoanalysis, he spent many years studying ancient Egypt. Toward the end of his life, after nearly two decades of research, Freud published what would become his final book. It was titled Moses and Monotheism.

Here Freud investigated several unorthodox theories regarding the true histories of Moses and the roots of Judaism and Christianity. Supported by historical facts, Freud concluded that Moses had been an Egyptian who brought out of his native country the doctrine which was given to his followers, thus forming the foundation of Judaism.

Freud places Moses in Egypt, as an initiate of the Aten religion of Pharaoh Akhnaton. Although, one of the most significant of Egypt's ancient royals, Akhenaten stands, to this day, as one of history's great enigmas. Although, he was not the central figure, the inclusion of him in Freud's book would add to a growing interest in this hidden king.

Akhetaten's new monotheist religeon was just a publicity stunt. He would stand in a small, boothlike room lined with gold and give presents to his officials so they would kiss his ass, saying the gifts were from the Aten, while the sunlight reflected off the gold for effect.

As per 'striking similarities', that's just comparing apples to oranges. Both believed in a singular god. So what? I am white, and one of my best friends is black, but we are both human, so we must have the same taste in pretty much everything, right? Wrong. People, accounts, stories, etc. are all unique.

It says that Osman has a stunning retelling of the Exodus story. Don't you think it is possible that Osman changed some facts and twisted things around to make himself look right? I do it all the time, I'm no stranger to "the truth".

As far as Frood is concerned, I really don't respect anything he has to offer. He was nothing more than a morphine addict with a suit.

If you can't tell, I'm not in the mood right now to actually detail inconsistancies with the "facts" you are presenting, mostly because I just got home from a hard night's work, and I'm rather spent. You seem so hell-bent that everyone agree with you. You may not say it, but with everyone's objective analysis, you find different texts to try and further prove your point, which I apologize, but I cannot agree with.

I am not saying you are wrong, but I am not saying you are right, either. I don't know what really happened those thousands of years ago, if anything happened at all. I wasn't there. You weren't there either, and therefore, you cannot know for certain either. Remember: history changes with each passing victory. The triumphant write the history books that glorify their name. The same is said of psychoanalitisists and historians. Everyone wants to be right, and can't face the fact that they are allmost always wrong.

..Reading back on that, I apologize if it sounded like I was chewing you out, it really is not my intent. I'm just seeing inconsistancies in the sources you are giving, and as I show them, you turn a blind eye and look for the next source of rediculous "evidence" to back your claim.

In all honesty, I want to be proven wrong. I want you to prove to me that Moses was Akhetaten. Not because I agree or disagree with you, but because I love learning; however, I cannot take any of this seriously if so many mistakes are made.

And with that.. I am going to bed!

Well said, Unas.
What has been posted is, indeed, like comparing apples and oranges. On the one hand, the poster evidently firmly believes in the Moses=Akhenaten idea. More power to him. People are free to believe as they choose. But logical evidence shows that the idea is not practical.
When one enters the realm of the Exodus, it becomes a matter of personal belief again. Personally, I do not believe that it ever really happened on the scale that is told in the Bible, but that does not mean that it did not happen! But trying to pin-point the exact time, to show which Pharaoh ruled, which princess adopted Moses, made him heir-apparent is, at best, a completely hopeless task.
You'll notice anything that is posted "proving" the subject is full of Maybes, Likelys and Perhaps. There is no definate proof of anything. Until such proof is forthcoming, my logical sense, my Doubting Thomas tells me "show me"!

i thank those who reply...i myself do not hold a certain thought myself but facts and theories are falling into my hands and i thought of posting them in here to see who agrees with me and who doesnt...

i repsect those who agree with me and those who dont too...but i am just seeking the truth thats all...

and this is just a sample of what i am finding...
http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/osman_moses.php

What would it matter if Akhenaten did happen to be Moses? We would just know he was Moses....By answering that question we bring up many more questions about the man that will probably never be answered....The same applies to if he had an illness. We will probably never know. We can theorize all we want.

I also believe that if, by chance, proof was found that proved beyond the shadow of a doubt he waaaas Moses-the world couldn't handle it. Historians all over the world would go nuts. There would be religious turmoil, because Akhenaten being Moses would mean they would have to question everything that was wriiten in the Bible-allll Holy texts. A total breakdown.

Therefore, I think theorizing is fun. I love to analyze. I think ol Wa'Enre may have been Moses, I ain't gonna' give any proof, I have proof, but nothing that can't be proven wrong-therefore it's just fun and it's just me thinking. (Exercising the old brain cells.) I will also support the Marfan's theory until the day I die. Thhhere, I have proof, but once again, it can perhaps be proved wrong.