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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:28 am 
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Re: Akhenaten and Moses
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:19 pm 
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thanks, thats exactly the help I was looking for :D


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:54 pm 
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One god, Aten, Monotheism, period.

"So from new information we can see that all those theories based upon Freud's including Ahmed Osman, are built on a falsehood. "
-- How do you come to this conclusion?

If you go with the Slave theory, then you go with Akhenaten's general Mermose.


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:25 am 
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it was not "monotheism"!..the other gods were still there....the most important change was that according to the new theory, Aton was the most important of all. Period.


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"the other gods were still there"
--really?

"eliminated the old gods in favor of the Aten. "

http://www.kingtutone.com/akhenaten/
"Akhenaten acknowledged that Aten was the single god except Re, the sun god. He claimed he was the only person able to converse to his god. This only caused an absence of priests and he soon banned them. He banned the worship of Amon and closed down sacred temples."


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:46 am 
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it was about the priests of Amon who became too powerful....the other gods were still there.


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:34 am 
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Maybe both views are right :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten
"The early stage of Atenism appears a kind of henotheism familiar in Egyptian religion, but the later form suggests a proto-monotheism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism
"Akhenaten's reforms cut away both the philosophical and economic bases of priestly power, abolishing the cults of multiple deities, and with them the large and lucrative industry of sacrifices and tributes that the priests controlled."

"Initially Akhenaten presented Aten as a variant of the familiar supreme deity Amun-Ra (itself the result of an earlier rise to prominence of the cult of Amun, resulting in Amun becoming merged with the sun god Ra), in an attempt to put his ideas in a familiar Egyptian religious context. Indeed Aten is the name given to the solar disk, whereas the full title of Akhenaten's god was Ra-Horus, who rejoices in the horizon in his name of the light which is in the sun disk. (This is the title of the god as it appears on the numerous stelae which were placed to mark the boundaries of Akhenaten's new capital at Akhetaten.) However in Year 9 of his reign Akhenaten declared a more radical version of his new religion by declaring Aten not merely the supreme god, but the only god, and that he, Akhenaten, was the only intermediary between the Aten and his people. He even staged the ritual regicide of Amun, and ordered the defacing of Amun's temples throughout Egypt."

"In Year 9 Akhenaten strengthened the Atenist regime, declaring the Aten not merely the supreme god but actually the only god, a universal deity, and forbidding worship of all others, including the veneration of idols, even privately in people's homes - an arena the Egyptian state had previously not touched in religious terms."

"Aten's name is also written differently after Year 9, to emphasise the radicalism of the new regime. No longer is the Aten written using the symbol of a rayed solar disc, but instead it is spelt phonetically."


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:12 am 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism

"There is no evidence from the late 18th dynasty that Egypt laid broken, ruined, and depopulated as Exodus states it did. When Moses did lead his people out of Egypt. This should sounds chimes of caution as well. "

--"The context appears to have been an Egypt hit by catastrophe,
seeming abandoned by the old gods: a series of pandemics is known to have occurred throughout the Near East of this period"


"There are no signs of Canaanite Conquest by the escaping Hebrews in the late 18th, or even early 19th dynasty. Which should again sound chimes of caution. "

--"The Amarna letters tell of a band of rebels, referred to as the Apiru, who were reported to be wreaking havoc in the empire. This reference has led to speculation that the report may be one of the earliest historical references to the Hebrew tribes."


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