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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:46 am 
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Why would you believe in past lives in ancient Egypt when the ancient Egyptians didn't believe in it?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:20 am 
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Because you aren't an ancient egyptian yourself. Do you think that people retain beliefs and religions from life to life?


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For real you guy's
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:20 am 
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Your spirit has nothing to do with whether or not you were ever Egyptian. Although had you been your soul would retain that memory as part of the learning process. It's all a matter of unfoldment.
I don't profess this so you guy's can make joke's about it. I make the statement because it is part of my truth and because of this truth I have recall of alot of thing's that happened then.
What really surprise's me is that we are still looking to kill the proverbial witch labeling made by the Christian Faith (Catholicism). Not discing anybody's religion here, just fact. No alot has changed in all these year's.
People are still willing to follow the status quo and believe what they are taught not what they seek to learn.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:09 pm 
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I can't resist jumping back in here. The two major religions that feature reincarnation as part of their belief (i.e Hinduism and Buddhism) actually believe exactly the opposite to what Bel argues. The concept of samsara (that is the cycle of birth and rebirth) states that whilst memory and knowledge is lost when you are reborn, religious strengths and beliefs are not. That is to say that when a good Hindu dies, he or she will be reborn as an equally good Hindu, who can progress to the next level of enlightenment. Vice-verca, if a non-Hindu dies, it is most unlikely that he or she will be reborn as a Hindu master nearing enlightenment. The process works entirely on which religion you followed in the previous life, and you keep being reborn until you follow the correct religion. Buddhism is almost identical, except you can 'lose' (i.e reach an equivalent of hell), whereas in Hinduism you can only 'lose' if the trilogy of gods passes a full cycle and the next incarnation of Vishnu (Kalki) arrives at the end of the world. After this the Earth itself is re created, and whether atmans (plural? I don't speak sanskrit!?) last over the recreation of the world I don't know.

Linking to an obscure site by an unqualified Japanese scholar will not lead me to believe that reincarnation is true. To be quite honest, the idea of living forever makes me feel sick, as does the idea of not existing at all. To be quite honest I haven't decided whether I even hope that exists. Either way it seems that I lose. Either I live forever (in punishment, or in so-called eternal bliss) or I don't exist at all. Both seem like fairly grim prospects. In my opinion, up until the moment where truth is revealed to us (in other words- when you die) we can believe whatever we chose. Provided it makes us happy, and religion clearly makes lots of people happy. Believing that you are superman might make you happy, or believing that you are Hatshepsut.

Believing something however does not make it true though.


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Since you believe you know all; than care to share the christian faith w/us.
I did not say that I was any one religion, so why are you making reference to a chosen one for me? Because you wish to discredit my own truth's in the face of this forum and the board? Your word's change nothing and to say that Whistler's mother because it is in black and white and did not find a place of honor as it restful place; it is never the less famous. Whistler got more atttention for his work's, after his lifetime than during. And yes, if could be considered subconscious transfer ..... but this was only my unfoldment of my new beginning. It does not have anything to do w/Hatshepsut reincarnate!!!


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Re: All knowing
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow...


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Thank you guy's
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For your kind support!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:44 pm 
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thank you for that! well said, [to the person above "bel"] :D


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:28 pm 
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Does anyone believe in both reincarnation AND heaven or hell?


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it is possible
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for all to occur. Hell like heaven is what you make it. As is our free given will to make the choice's w/our live's. Working with matter as energy....i know that if energy is terminated tragically, suddenly ... it is a confusing state of chaos. Ever see that Movie What Dream's what Come?
I see this movie as part of a pitcure of explanation. We are the creator's of our own making. I say we are all born from perfect seed. But then I refuse to welcome evil upon this sanctuary. That does not mean it does not exist. We get caught up in what other people think of us therefore becoming confused in believing that what other people think is more important to us that what we think of ourselve's. Few of us honestly look at ourselve's. It seem's impossible to have relation's that are functional unless we look from the inside out; instead of the outside in.
Existence is free floating and there are no limitation's except our mind's.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:55 pm 
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Bel, Sounds like you just put a whole bunch of words together that you found in the dictionary.


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Cool!
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Remind's me of Shrek and the layer's of an onion!


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