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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:03 pm 
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Powerless Pharaoh Tut
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Re: Tut's father
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Ok sorry for late response have been on holiday!
Firstly, where on earth did the Tut IV theory arise from? Ok its not beyond the realms of possibility but did someone just pull it out of a hat?

Secondly, in response to guest 2:

- We all know that it was common practice for a Pharaoh to be portrayed as a great and powerful warrior, whether or not hat was the case in real life. Tut was taking his place with the gods so his tomb would need to be equipped for this task. It doesn't change what he was in real life.

- Yes Tut had neither a mother or a Regent. If we are to believe Kiya was his mother then she died/disapeared, as did Nefertiti. What could he do but allow the Vizier(his relative) and the head of the army to 'take charge'. These were men used to getting their own way as prooven by the murder of the Hittite prince Zananza, whoever carried it out.

- There was a documentary on the history channel which stated that Akhenaten had sealed KV55. This never did sit well with me considering the fact that Akhenaten had said he would never leave Akhet-Aten, why would he allow his family to be burried outside the city?

- Obviously I don't have any firm evidence stating Kiya was the mother of Tut as there isn't any. I stated above that I didn't 100% believe it, just that I thought it the most likely scenario. The obvious answer is usually the right one.

- You quoted 'Akhenaten by Cyril Aldred, a copy of which I own, so I will also refer to it: It is Cyril Aldred who speculates that the 2nd death bed scene may have been Kiya. It does make sense, we know that she died/disapeared around this time. What other royal female could it be?


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king tut's tomb
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why is king tut's tomb most appropriate for a king :?: :!: :? [/b]


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Thutmosis IV as possible grandfather of Tut
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[quote="Kiya"]Ok sorry for late response have been on holiday!
Firstly, where on earth did the Tut IV theory arise from? Ok its not beyond the realms of possibility but did someone just pull it out of a hat?

I suggest you go to the website and read up on the latest information. The scientists offer good reason for their 3rd suggestion as to the parents of Tutankhamun. The son of Thutmosis IV and a daughter of Amenophis III. It is based upon facial/crano simialarities. Sciene, Kiya not fictional flights of fancy.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:26 am 
Originally posted by Kiya - Kiya writes: We all know that it was common practice for a Pharaoh to be portrayed as a great and powerful warrior, whether or not hat was the case in real life. Tut was taking his place with the gods so his tomb would need to be equipped for this task. It doesn't change what he was in real life.

Sekhmet writes: I am sorry but i know such thing. Would you please enlighten me with the source of your knowledge? "That it was common practice for Pharaoh to be portrayed as a great powerful warrior."

The source of my knowledge is accepted fact! Part of the role of the pharaoh was to establish Maat throughout the land, part of which involved fighting and defeating Egypt's enemies. Consequently this is how pharaohs were portrayed: strong and vigorous warriors establishing justice and order and defending Egypt against aggressors.

Kiya writes- There was a documentary on the history channel which stated that Akhenaten had sealed KV55. This never did sit well with me considering the fact that Akhenaten had said he would never leave Akhet-Aten, why would he allow his family to be burried outside the city?

Sekhmet writes- could you please furnish me with source for this statement. I remember that Lucille Morgan in The Lost Queen of Egypt makes this statement regarding Akhenaten, it was a work of fiction and no real archaeologists supports her statement in the book. You haven't read her book too have you? It lead me for years in several wrong conclusions.

I have just stated my source, a documentary on the history channel although, as previously stated I was not happy with this. I watch so many of these documentaries on Egypt and sometimes it seems like the researchers of the show have not done any. It is now accepted by most that the sarcophagus in KV 55 was made for a royal female whether that be Kiya, Meritaten etc..... but this theory wasn't even mentioned in the show, it was all about Akhenaten.


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