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garcatnancy · Joined:Sun May 08, 2005 9:17 pm Posts:3

Rameses II~~~~~~

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2005 10:48 am

I like Tut and Akhenaten, as you can all tell by my drawing of them below ^_^ They're both very interesting, and I love the Amarna period!! :lol:

Hehe...

Psusennes I · Joined:Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:00 am Posts:912 Location: England

When it comes to Egyptian art, Senwosret III's statues of himself are fantastic too. At the period of their design, artists wanted to achieve a more true-to-life appearance in their statues rather than just defaulting to standardised expressions and characterless carvings. In the case of Senwosret III, the sculptors of his statues annunciated his rather spectacular ears:

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2005 6:22 pm

Psusennes I · Joined:Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:00 am Posts:912 Location: England

Your sources aren't at all flawed, you're absolutely right when you say that it was most common for the Pharaohs (and officials) to be sterotyped and shown to be perfect. Senwosret III's statuary is unique in that he is shown as a real, living leader, weary with age and rulership rather than an innacessible God. The naturalistic qualities of the statues make him seem more true to life and real, his statues being quite possibly the oldest on the planet to show an identifiable figure as they truly appeared in life. Egyptologists fuss over how these statues represents a change in the Pharaoh's iconography, how Senwosret is shown as a wise, honest official and not a vain psuedo-deity.

The trend was not followed as strongly by Senwosret's succesor, Amenemhat III, and was abandoned completely shortly afterwards. The slightly haunting character visible in Senwosret's tired, almost melancholic countenance died with him.

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Wed May 11, 2005 11:13 am

So the only pharaohs--at least to my knowledge-- who used true-to-life art were Akhenaten and Senwosret III? Well, at least it gives us a glimpse into how some pharaohs were imperfect, after all. And I'm glad you said that my sources were not flawed, and I just didn't want the impression that I was looking at the wrong information. A few people on here, as I've seen in many forums, are mislead by different websites and/or books that state one theory, but another source could hold an entirely new concept. So, with that, thanks. ^_^ I'm really glad that there are nice people on here who understand where I'm coming from.

( Though, might I add, Tut wasn't really perfect, either, being the son of Akhenaten and all. :shock:

But he was still a cute pharaoh. ^_^ ).

Psusennes I · Joined:Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:00 am Posts:912 Location: England

Tut, a cute Pharaoh? Studies show that he was probably decrepid and sickly with spine problems- but hey. Whatever floats your boat. Also, I wouldn't go as far as saying that Akhenaten and Senwosret III were the only Pharaohs to potray themselves in a lifelike manner, but rather they were both pioneers in new artistic styles.

Unas · **Posted:** Wed May 11, 2005 11:27 am

I wonder if Ramses II could be considered a user of the armanic art form? I speak of course, of the huge temple with all the likenesses of him guarding the entrance.

...I posted something similar to this at , but sadly, it was overlooked. I also wish I could have been contraband to this discussion a bit earlier, as I have missed my chance to throw in my crazy slant on things that have since been discussed! Oh well, I guess..?

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Wed May 11, 2005 11:36 am

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Wed May 11, 2005 4:10 pm

Osiris II · **Posted:** Wed May 11, 2005 4:32 pm

the_tutness_is_here · **Posted:** Thu May 12, 2005 4:33 am

Hydarnes · Joined:Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:12 am Posts:12

Amenhotep III

Definitely. Ruled at the most glorious apex of Egypt.